Jesse Waters

Or is it just, is the media so diffuse now?

strictness on those kinds of environments it is interesting jesse how much the publicists are the gatekeepers from many stars and singers like even in country music they won't let me do your show that's actually the alarm clock that won't let you do it um but you know what i mean there's like the they're the gatekeepers to all this yeah i don't even have a publicist and i still don't do anything

I'm keeping myself from doing everything.

Fox PR.

Fox Media Relations.

That's true.

Who I love.

Greg's now, like, crushing these late-night shows so badly.

I don't think it's, like, something you should be bragging about anymore.

There's, like, a mercy rule.

It's getting a little embarrassing.

It's like me saying I'm crushing the WNBA games.

Are you?

I'm losing to them.

During the playoffs?

I used to watch Letterman and Leno and Conan and even Johnny Carson reruns.

And I just remember there was so much attention to the skits and to the monologue and making it so crisp and the production and the music.

And it's like you tune into these shows now and it's like you see Jake Tapper's a guest.

Yeah.

It's like, Jake Tapper?