Jesse Weber

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And they went on a $700,000 shopping spree after killing their parents. They bought Rolex's clothing. They put an investment in a restaurant. And look, you know that the problem for them is later on, as I'm sure we'll talk about, they said that they had no choice but to kill their parents. They were under duress. They were abused.

And they went on a $700,000 shopping spree after killing their parents. They bought Rolex's clothing. They put an investment in a restaurant. And look, you know that the problem for them is later on, as I'm sure we'll talk about, they said that they had no choice but to kill their parents. They were under duress. They were abused.

And they went on a $700,000 shopping spree after killing their parents. They bought Rolex's clothing. They put an investment in a restaurant. And look, you know that the problem for them is later on, as I'm sure we'll talk about, they said that they had no choice but to kill their parents. They were under duress. They were abused.

The Netflix show, the one from Ryan Murphy, that scene where the parents are killed is absolutely brutal. But you know what? It was actually worse in real life, because whereas you watch on the TV show, the parents seem to know the brothers come in. And there's this moment when Javier Bardem steps up off the couch and confronts his sons. That didn't happen in real life.

The Netflix show, the one from Ryan Murphy, that scene where the parents are killed is absolutely brutal. But you know what? It was actually worse in real life, because whereas you watch on the TV show, the parents seem to know the brothers come in. And there's this moment when Javier Bardem steps up off the couch and confronts his sons. That didn't happen in real life.

The Netflix show, the one from Ryan Murphy, that scene where the parents are killed is absolutely brutal. But you know what? It was actually worse in real life, because whereas you watch on the TV show, the parents seem to know the brothers come in. And there's this moment when Javier Bardem steps up off the couch and confronts his sons. That didn't happen in real life.

The parents, they didn't even know it was coming. They were shot from behind. So it makes it even more insidious, I would say, what happened in real life as opposed to the show. But at the same time, it was a really, really brutal graphic murder.

The parents, they didn't even know it was coming. They were shot from behind. So it makes it even more insidious, I would say, what happened in real life as opposed to the show. But at the same time, it was a really, really brutal graphic murder.

The parents, they didn't even know it was coming. They were shot from behind. So it makes it even more insidious, I would say, what happened in real life as opposed to the show. But at the same time, it was a really, really brutal graphic murder.

And if I may couple that with something, and we'll talk about it probably a little bit later, but at one point, the brothers had argued self-defense. And under California law at the time, it was called imperfect self-defense.

And if I may couple that with something, and we'll talk about it probably a little bit later, but at one point, the brothers had argued self-defense. And under California law at the time, it was called imperfect self-defense.

And if I may couple that with something, and we'll talk about it probably a little bit later, but at one point, the brothers had argued self-defense. And under California law at the time, it was called imperfect self-defense.

Basically, what it means is, I might have an unreasonable belief, an unreasonable belief my life is in danger, but as long as I really legitimately felt it, you can argue imperfect self-defense. And one of the things the court said was, They might have been in general fear for their parents, but they were not in imminent fear of their parents.

Basically, what it means is, I might have an unreasonable belief, an unreasonable belief my life is in danger, but as long as I really legitimately felt it, you can argue imperfect self-defense. And one of the things the court said was, They might have been in general fear for their parents, but they were not in imminent fear of their parents.

Basically, what it means is, I might have an unreasonable belief, an unreasonable belief my life is in danger, but as long as I really legitimately felt it, you can argue imperfect self-defense. And one of the things the court said was, They might have been in general fear for their parents, but they were not in imminent fear of their parents.

And the idea of going out, buying the guns, going out to the car, reloading, that's what made this look a lot more premeditated and really was problematic for the brothers as if they just felt they had no choice but to take whatever weapon they had at that moment, defend their lives. That's what made this different.