Jesse Welles

Not a bunch.

But they'll offer you a little for a lot, you know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

They'll go, you know, here's...

I mean, there are all sorts of folks in the early days coming through labels and stuff going, here's, we'll give you 10 grand for like 30 songs or something like that.

And it's like, this is insulting.

Yeah.

I don't want any of this.

promises they will oh that's money they give you so much up front and you don't even like if you don't know it's just a big ass loan that you're never gonna recoup and then you're you're not even you're not living off your own dough at that point you're just living off of borrowed money like everybody else in the states and you're attached to them forever yeah you're attached to them forever they just they own your masters you'll never see it back I mean I was signed to a label when I was like 22 I've been through that all that crap how old are you now I'm 47

Are you really?

You look great.

No, I'm going to be 33 this year.

Yeah, at me.

yeah well you don't you don't have to have all those people put they're not going to help you no they don't too many cooks in the kitchen way too many people wanting to sign people eating at the dinner plate and dude whenever anybody gives you like if label comes in let's say chris took let's say he took the deal you know or whatever if oliver anthony took the big deal

Then he's got all these people up there in the office with tax write-off MacBooks telling him what to do with his music because they opened their wallet and they're going to have to give you notes.

They're entitled to give you their opinion at that point and he wouldn't be able to just do whatever the hell he wants to do.

And I think it's so important for artists to be able to do whatever the hell they want to do because that's the only way they can be themselves.

Exactly.

And then that's the only way you can be successful is to completely be yourself at all times, 100%.