Jesse Welles

Yeah.

And dough will change your life in a way that you might not be ready for or something.

You're going to think, I got this dough.

Now I can leave this town I don't like.

Or I can get the house that I was wanting.

Really, it was being...

in that town and kind of having things difficult pressures around you and stuff that was creating these diamonds that was putting you in this situation to make good art and stuff like that yeah and you take away all your discomfort and then realize you can't make art and you're not happy

And then you start getting nostalgic about the good old days when you were broke and shit like that.

It's better to just take only what you need.

It's how you measure.

No, no.

Your measure of success is like how much can I be myself and be happy that way.

If you can still be 100% yourself all the way to the end of the line, then that's your success.

Yeah.

But that's a smart way of looking at things.

But we know that, like, we know even from talking about, like, people whose business, whose art is money, it creates misery to be chasing the bank account, to constantly have the dough, you know?

Like, you create a wake of, you create bad art, all right?

Your albums start to suck.

You might be getting in bigger, bigger places and stuff like that.

But, yeah, it's going to fall off, and when it does, you know,