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Jesse Zhang

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

That's why it's exciting.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

That's why everyone's so focused on it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

One thing you can do then is you can just map out the spectrum of how much that human labor currently costs.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

So with customer service, it's generally outsourced already, especially for the tier one, tier two type inquiries that AI is now handling.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

It's generally not folks that are super highly paid.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And then on the other end, it's engineers, which is the most highly paid people.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

The one way to think about it is that AI use case will start eating the spectrum of both ends.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And the reason why is that because engineers are the highest paid, they have the sophistication to like really leverage it well.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And like AI just gives them so much leverage.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

I mean, there's other factors as well.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

It just happens that coding is tokenizable and the models are really good at it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

That's one way to think about it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

I don't know any company that's like, hey, I would like to let go of a bunch of my engineers because now I have coding agents.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

There's infinite engineering work to do.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

So you're just augmenting them.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

On the other end, it is more of the replacement sense.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

You have a large BPO and that's costing you a ton of money.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And it's also like a really high operational thing to maintain because you have to hire people all the time.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

There's a ton of churn, you need to train them, you need to QA them, you need to make sure that nothing goes wrong.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

So AI is really valuable there as well because the work is easier for the AI to do.