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Jesse Zhang

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

It can fully replace.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And I think that goes into the conversation of

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

I think it's a little bit overblown of like, oh, AI is replacing jobs and so on.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

Even the BPOs we talked to, they're not really that concerned because what typically happens anyways is that there's already very high turnover in these BPOs.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

People are just hopping around and doing all sorts of different things, kind of just naturally let it decrease.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And then they just go on to do sort of the next level of tasks that they can't do yet, right?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And so maybe that's like data labeling or something.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

That's generally what we're seeing from the BPOs.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

But yeah, anyways, I think the spectrum is pretty real.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And so then the question is, like, what is the next thing that happens?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

Yeah, I would say the biggest learning we had is that oftentimes a long pole in the tent.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And again, if you can solve this well, it just makes things go a lot easier, is aligning on what does good look like.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And you would think that in our space, it's pretty easy because it's like, OK, maybe you have a bunch of questions and answers and that's what good looks like.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

But unfortunately, it's a lot more nuanced than that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

What good looks like could be in the sense of like tone and brand guidelines or how conversational you are.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And even for the actual answers, like we work with a lot of enterprises where obviously their scope is broad.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And so one of the things you need to set up beforehand is what's good look like.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

So we have in our product essentially like a testing or simulation suite of like, hey, we're going to build out 10,000 tests.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And each one is going to be constantly running like five times.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And then you can get a sense of how well things are performing.