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Jesse Zhang

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And you want full rigor, right?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

If it's a regulated use case, you cannot afford for it to ever deviate.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

These three steps always have to be followed in this order.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And you can't go to step three until something has happened already.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

So you need to design a system that can be anywhere along that spectrum.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And back to your question of what could go wrong.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

Well, the worst thing that's happened would be it just says something that's not supposed to say.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And so you need to design an AI that's really robust to that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And you can choose like, OK, for this use case, we really need it to be over here.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

That's a lot more robust.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

But for other use cases where it's just asking basic questions on their account, we don't want it to be like that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

We want to be super free form.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And that's how we get the customer satisfaction up.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

It's really just elevating the experience.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

One sort of metric, which is usually a secondary metric that folks think about later, but is quite important to us, is just how often do people come in and just say like, agent, agent, agent, like give me two representatives.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

I want to talk to you.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

I've done that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

You probably have as well.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

You're just like calling into some sort of customer service and you're just like pressing zero the whole time.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Jesse Zhang - Building Decagon - [Invest Like the Best, EP.443]

And that's because people are used to bad experiences.