Jessica Badalana

No, we're talking about something older than us, which is cheesecake.

One of America's very favorite desserts.

We're starting with what I consider to be a polarizing topic, only because you know that I have feelings, a lot of feelings about cheesecake, which is the subject of today's episode.

And you also know that most of my feelings are negative.

That doesn't surprise me.

Oh, yeah.

People love it.

You know, for a while, every dessert menu, even without seeing the dessert menu in a certain period of time, you could be like, I know what's on that dessert menu.

It's an apple tart.

It's a lava cake.

It's a cheesecake.

There's sort of a lineup.

Ice cream.

And I feel like it's hanging on.

But you were telling me, I mean, there was a period of time that...

You committed to a cheesecake.

And I actually think...

And here's where I'm just going to, you know, be negative again.

Like that type of cheesecake that you're describing is actually my least favorite.

So the New York cheesecake that you're describing, this one is unusual because of the sponge cake base, but it's like very dense.