Jessica Badalana

almost fudgy very tall not that sweet actually and it's extremely cheesy and it's not my favorite style but you know cakes made with cheese i think juniors has perhaps claimed in the past to be the inventor of the cheesecake i don't know i mean i think we've in our research we've seen that's not true

Yeah, I mean, because cakes, cheesecakes, or at least cakes made with cheese, like date, I mean, it's like Roman Empire stuff.

Like, as long as there's been cheese, people have been making cheesecake.

You know, in Italy, they make cheesecake with ricotta.

You know, in Germany, they make it with like cottage cheese.

So hot right now.

Or pork.

Right, pork.

That is, I mean, in the trajectory of cheesecake, kind of a modern invention because, you know, cream cheese as we know it, like Philadelphia style stabilized cream cheese was not invented until I think the 1870s?

Yeah, what were people...

Where were people even putting on their bagels?

Exactly.

Before 1920.

Right.

Because bagels are, well, we have another episode all about bagels.

But bagels, of course, also were invented before 1920.

So, like, what was happening?

Buttered bagels?

Anyway.

I actually do love just a buttered bagel.