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Jessica Cheung

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
147 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

And this change in mood is starting to have an impact on Isla too.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

Oh, man.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

Would you ever consider moving to Brazil to be with your dad if it came to that?

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

I wanted to ask, you know, what do you make of the fact that for a lot of Americans, your father's story, while sympathetic, might at the end of the day feel like, yeah, he ultimately was here, not legally.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

What would you say to those people who might agree with the administration's policies to remove people like your dad who don't have documentation here?

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

You mentioned you spent most of your life envisioning a future with your dad and going into business with your dad.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

Given everything that's happened, what is that dream now?

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

Like no time had passed.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

Yeah.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

Isla never got the call to pick up her dad.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

Instead, a few days after we had talked, she received news that her dad had been deported from the U.S.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

to Brazil.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

So Isla packed a small suitcase for herself and a bigger one for her dad, and she booked a ticket for one to Brazil.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

And on Tuesday morning, at the arrivals terminal in Belo Horizonte Airport, Isla finally got to be with her dad.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

I guess that the feeling you're describing is that you don't feel like you belong there in Brazil.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

Is there specific things you saw that triggered you into thinking, I'm not supposed to be here?

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

Is it like the smell of, I don't know, the air?

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

You mentioned that you wanted, when we last talked, to work with your dad and that the dream was to start a company, to design and build places.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0: An Update

And I guess I wonder if that's still the plan, if you feel like that dream is still possible in some way.

The Daily
Family Separation 2.0

I first spoke to Isla back in February. This was a month into the Trump administration, which had promised quick and mass deportations. I was calling immigration lawyers around the country, trying to get a sense of who exactly was getting targeted for deportation and how ICE was fining them. And that's when a lawyer called me back, saying you got to talk to Isla.