Jessica Hancock

Yeah. I suppose there's a danger. I suppose it depends on the group and the people involved. And especially maybe if you had, like, maybe a group of... you know, younger males involved that it could get, you know, kind of juvenile and stuff like that. I mean, is that, is that sort of like ways to approach it to try and avoid falling into that trap?

I wouldn't like that at all.

I wouldn't like that at all.

I would love that. I've had a lot of real breakups in my life. I don't want to add fake ones to it.

I would love that. I've had a lot of real breakups in my life. I don't want to add fake ones to it.

Mm-hmm. I think for me there would be quite a strong element of self-consciousness as well in such. I mean, I think I would feel very self-conscious and awkward and silly doing that just because of who I am and what I'm like. It's not necessarily things that can't be overcome. I don't know. I don't know.

Mm-hmm. I think for me there would be quite a strong element of self-consciousness as well in such. I mean, I think I would feel very self-conscious and awkward and silly doing that just because of who I am and what I'm like. It's not necessarily things that can't be overcome. I don't know. I don't know.

Always, always, always go Joey Tribbiani in Friends. How are you doing? How are you doing? There we go.

Always, always, always go Joey Tribbiani in Friends. How are you doing? How are you doing? There we go.

Yeah. I think also, I mean, we've touched on consent and things like that. And we're all, I'm sure, aware of examples of actual pay, live streams and things like that, or reports from conventions where that has... been done wrong. Yeah. Sometimes with, you know, catastrophic consequences. I mean, I don't want to bring up any names, but... Yeah. I mean, we know that can happen.

Yeah. I think also, I mean, we've touched on consent and things like that. And we're all, I'm sure, aware of examples of actual pay, live streams and things like that, or reports from conventions where that has... been done wrong. Yeah. Sometimes with, you know, catastrophic consequences. I mean, I don't want to bring up any names, but... Yeah. I mean, we know that can happen.

So, and you mentioned it as an analogy to horror.

So, and you mentioned it as an analogy to horror.

earlier, Jess, and I totally get what you mean.

earlier, Jess, and I totally get what you mean.

But the issue of consent is there, though, in exactly the same way. And so... I think with something like this... Mm-hmm. It's kind of a little less clear-cut than horror because it can develop and change.

But the issue of consent is there, though, in exactly the same way. And so... I think with something like this... Mm-hmm. It's kind of a little less clear-cut than horror because it can develop and change.

More than... You could sort of say, no, I don't want cannibalism, and therefore you just don't have cannibalism. Yeah. But a social interaction develops and changes...

More than... You could sort of say, no, I don't want cannibalism, and therefore you just don't have cannibalism. Yeah. But a social interaction develops and changes...

And that's why those safety tools are so... It's harder to prep for, isn't it, I guess.