Jessica Knurick

And then they work, again, for like two years on a report, on a scientific report.

So they look at all global nutrition science, and then they formulate kind of the scientific report that is meant to inform the dietary guidelines.

No, not traditionally.

I mean, I suppose, if there is bias.

The idea is that it's independent, that they're just looking at the science, that they're coming out with a scientific report.

Yeah, so the scientific report is usually pretty unbiased.

That comes out, but then what happens— Then it has to become policy.

Then it has to become policy.

Then it has to become the actual guidelines.

So between... Well, this is traditionally how it's always worked.

So the scientific committee will submit the report.

And then there's this period of time, usually like a year, where they will take the scientific report and then they will create the dietary guidelines.

And in between those two things happening, there's usually a lot of lobbying that happens by the beef and dairy industry and the corporate food industry.

And so they sometimes will water down language.

I don't think there's a lot of examples where they actually completely change the guidelines previously.

It's more like...

the foods that they tell you to eat, they'll talk in our language that we speak like foods.

And then the foods they tell you not to eat, they'll change it to like nutrients that we don't really think about.

Right.

So like eat less saturated fat instead of eat less meat, those types of things.