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Jessica Kriegel

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105 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

I would love for the companies that our organization competes against to to force people back into the office because this will become a differentiator for me then and for the job openings that I have that we are remote. You can work from home. Come and apply over here. Don't go to our competitors. They're going to make you go in the office five days a week.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

And that also is a competitive edge and a differentiator just to be offering that. I have been approached by a lot of organizations to move and take on other roles with better pay and more power, more influence, more whatever it is that everyone wants in their career. But you've got to go into the office five days a week. And I said, no, thank you. There's no way.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

And that also is a competitive edge and a differentiator just to be offering that. I have been approached by a lot of organizations to move and take on other roles with better pay and more power, more influence, more whatever it is that everyone wants in their career. But you've got to go into the office five days a week. And I said, no, thank you. There's no way.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

And that also is a competitive edge and a differentiator just to be offering that. I have been approached by a lot of organizations to move and take on other roles with better pay and more power, more influence, more whatever it is that everyone wants in their career. But you've got to go into the office five days a week. And I said, no, thank you. There's no way.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

It's not part of my value system anymore. And there are a lot of people like me.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

It's not part of my value system anymore. And there are a lot of people like me.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

It's not part of my value system anymore. And there are a lot of people like me.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

We have unlocked a new belief due to the experience of COVID. We all had an experience that was transformative for us in the way we think about work. and where work can be done and how productive we can be at home. And that's not going away, right? We know that now. And if you think about the people who are forcing people back into the office and the language used around that, it's quite telling.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

We have unlocked a new belief due to the experience of COVID. We all had an experience that was transformative for us in the way we think about work. and where work can be done and how productive we can be at home. And that's not going away, right? We know that now. And if you think about the people who are forcing people back into the office and the language used around that, it's quite telling.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

We have unlocked a new belief due to the experience of COVID. We all had an experience that was transformative for us in the way we think about work. and where work can be done and how productive we can be at home. And that's not going away, right? We know that now. And if you think about the people who are forcing people back into the office and the language used around that, it's quite telling.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

Return, return to office, go back to the office. Those are regressive phrases that are about going backwards to the way that it was before COVID. They're acting like COVID was a pause on normal and that now we can unpause and go back to normal as if it didn't completely transform our thinking and the nature of the global economy. It did transform us. Now we are different.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

Return, return to office, go back to the office. Those are regressive phrases that are about going backwards to the way that it was before COVID. They're acting like COVID was a pause on normal and that now we can unpause and go back to normal as if it didn't completely transform our thinking and the nature of the global economy. It did transform us. Now we are different.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

Return, return to office, go back to the office. Those are regressive phrases that are about going backwards to the way that it was before COVID. They're acting like COVID was a pause on normal and that now we can unpause and go back to normal as if it didn't completely transform our thinking and the nature of the global economy. It did transform us. Now we are different.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

We've been shaped to be different because of what was a global pandemic. catastrophic event that totally upended businesses and people's personal lives. And so our new beliefs exist. And so that is, you know, that's here to stay. What's happened is a change, a change in the nature of work. And the companies that are trying to force people back into the office are not able to adapt.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

We've been shaped to be different because of what was a global pandemic. catastrophic event that totally upended businesses and people's personal lives. And so our new beliefs exist. And so that is, you know, that's here to stay. What's happened is a change, a change in the nature of work. And the companies that are trying to force people back into the office are not able to adapt.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

We've been shaped to be different because of what was a global pandemic. catastrophic event that totally upended businesses and people's personal lives. And so our new beliefs exist. And so that is, you know, that's here to stay. What's happened is a change, a change in the nature of work. And the companies that are trying to force people back into the office are not able to adapt.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

They're trying to just go back to how it always has been. And so those those are not the companies that I believe will win.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

They're trying to just go back to how it always has been. And so those those are not the companies that I believe will win.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

They're trying to just go back to how it always has been. And so those those are not the companies that I believe will win.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

I think there will be a seismic shift. They have made a commitment in their executive closed doors meeting to take this to the limit. Amazon has gone in the public eye, has done media interviews, has adamantly shared that this is happening. And so I think they're prepared for the seismic shift that will happen as a result of that. I think it's going to shake things up.