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Jessica Kriegel

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105 total appearances

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Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

I have spoken with the CEO of one of the biggest tech companies in the world who said, our company will never be bigger than it is today. This is the biggest we will ever be from an employee headcount standpoint. And from now on, We will be getting leaner and we will be getting more efficient with less people. And that's true for most tech companies. So they want to shed employees. They overhired.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

I have spoken with the CEO of one of the biggest tech companies in the world who said, our company will never be bigger than it is today. This is the biggest we will ever be from an employee headcount standpoint. And from now on, We will be getting leaner and we will be getting more efficient with less people. And that's true for most tech companies. So they want to shed employees. They overhired.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

I have spoken with the CEO of one of the biggest tech companies in the world who said, our company will never be bigger than it is today. This is the biggest we will ever be from an employee headcount standpoint. And from now on, We will be getting leaner and we will be getting more efficient with less people. And that's true for most tech companies. So they want to shed employees. They overhired.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

That was course corrected by the first round of layoffs that you saw last year. But now they're just trying to get leaner and more effective and efficient. And so they're going to continue to lay people off. And this is a way to get people to leave without laying them off.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

That was course corrected by the first round of layoffs that you saw last year. But now they're just trying to get leaner and more effective and efficient. And so they're going to continue to lay people off. And this is a way to get people to leave without laying them off.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

That was course corrected by the first round of layoffs that you saw last year. But now they're just trying to get leaner and more effective and efficient. And so they're going to continue to lay people off. And this is a way to get people to leave without laying them off.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

I think that eventually we will all be working from home. Not next year, but eventually. It does feel inevitable to me. Hybrid has been shown to be one of the hardest models to implement effectively. I do think that of all the models, working from home 100% is the best. And there are plenty of companies that are 100% remote. Many companies have made very...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

I think that eventually we will all be working from home. Not next year, but eventually. It does feel inevitable to me. Hybrid has been shown to be one of the hardest models to implement effectively. I do think that of all the models, working from home 100% is the best. And there are plenty of companies that are 100% remote. Many companies have made very...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

I think that eventually we will all be working from home. Not next year, but eventually. It does feel inevitable to me. Hybrid has been shown to be one of the hardest models to implement effectively. I do think that of all the models, working from home 100% is the best. And there are plenty of companies that are 100% remote. Many companies have made very...

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

great results with a company that's 100% remote. And many companies are highly successful being in the office five days a week, right? And then there are, of course, those jobs where you have to be in the office or you have to be on the factory floor. And those will always be, you know, in manufacturing, for example, you have to be there, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

great results with a company that's 100% remote. And many companies are highly successful being in the office five days a week, right? And then there are, of course, those jobs where you have to be in the office or you have to be on the factory floor. And those will always be, you know, in manufacturing, for example, you have to be there, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

great results with a company that's 100% remote. And many companies are highly successful being in the office five days a week, right? And then there are, of course, those jobs where you have to be in the office or you have to be on the factory floor. And those will always be, you know, in manufacturing, for example, you have to be there, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

But hybrid has been very complicated for the reasons you talked about. You go to the office to get on a Zoom. You go to the office and people picked a different day to go to the office and no one's there. So hybrid is hard. Being 100% one or the other is a little bit easier. And I think that it'll take a while, but eventually more people will be working from home than not.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

But hybrid has been very complicated for the reasons you talked about. You go to the office to get on a Zoom. You go to the office and people picked a different day to go to the office and no one's there. So hybrid is hard. Being 100% one or the other is a little bit easier. And I think that it'll take a while, but eventually more people will be working from home than not.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

But hybrid has been very complicated for the reasons you talked about. You go to the office to get on a Zoom. You go to the office and people picked a different day to go to the office and no one's there. So hybrid is hard. Being 100% one or the other is a little bit easier. And I think that it'll take a while, but eventually more people will be working from home than not.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

It's absolutely true that you have a larger talent pool when your company is remote because you're pulling from a larger pool of people. And so you can be more selective and get higher level talent, right, than if you're geographically remote. landlocked, so to speak. So that's unequivocally true. There's no argument against that. I think moving forward, this is the differentiator, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

It's absolutely true that you have a larger talent pool when your company is remote because you're pulling from a larger pool of people. And so you can be more selective and get higher level talent, right, than if you're geographically remote. landlocked, so to speak. So that's unequivocally true. There's no argument against that. I think moving forward, this is the differentiator, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

It's absolutely true that you have a larger talent pool when your company is remote because you're pulling from a larger pool of people. And so you can be more selective and get higher level talent, right, than if you're geographically remote. landlocked, so to speak. So that's unequivocally true. There's no argument against that. I think moving forward, this is the differentiator, right?

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

I would love for the companies that our organization competes against to to force people back into the office because this will become a differentiator for me then and for the job openings that I have that we are remote. You can work from home. Come and apply over here. Don't go to our competitors. They're going to make you go in the office five days a week.

Decoder with Nilay Patel
Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdoor layoffs"

I would love for the companies that our organization competes against to to force people back into the office because this will become a differentiator for me then and for the job openings that I have that we are remote. You can work from home. Come and apply over here. Don't go to our competitors. They're going to make you go in the office five days a week.