Jessica Rovello

And so that's really where they turn to us and we provide them with kind of a turnkey gaming solution that they put in their game section of their digital property.

2018, we were in the $15 million, just around 15.

Yep.

You know, I would say...

that it was something that took place over time.

And I think it was something, again, nothing's ever like black and white.

There's nuance to every kind of decision that you make as a business person, as an entrepreneur.

So I think two things were happening.

I think one, we noticed in us having been through a real existential crisis in our business that involved a political situation.

We had engineers based in Ukraine.

We had to move them

due to kind of the political crisis that was going on there.

And so in facing that existential crisis as the business, and that was really kind of like a time of reflection, we realized that, like, we're not done building this company.

We don't feel like we've hit the...

the point of success that we know that we are capable of achieving.

And we love the journey that we're on in building this business.

So that was kind of point number one, just coming to that realization.

I think point number two was just always kind of going in eyes wide open and understanding that when you take investment,

your investors expect a return.

And if you have not necessarily been upfront with them about your thinking that, and because at the time we didn't even know it in ourselves, this is something we may want to do for the next 20 years.