Jessica Ryan

Absolutely.

So this transition to slaughter care.

Yeah, I absolutely agree with you on those points.

I just...

It's a very emotional issue and it's very raw.

I'm seven months postpartum and it's been extremely challenging.

Side point, I have been engaging in the public system with my son for the past seven months as an outpatient in Crumlin Hospital.

So I am well aware of the public system and the challenges and the benefits there.

It's just, yeah, it's really complex and nuanced.

So I don't think there's a yes and a no.

There are so many intricacies involved.

I don't know why you think I'm a wealthy person.

I have a very average salary, and this is actually getting too personal, but I would not consider myself.

I rent in Dublin, and at a huge rate, I am about to start paying huge childcare costs in the next coming months.

I am currently on unpaid mat leave, and I say privileged because I do have so much privilege.

But I don't have thousands just lying around to pay for that care.

And I kind of think we're losing sight of the point a little bit.

And I truly believe in excellent, excellent public care because I saw how well it worked in Canada and no healthcare system is perfect at all.

But for me, in my situation, I had to assess what my values were, what my fears were, what my hopes were, and I went to private care.

And to be honest, my head is spinning in this conversation.