Jessica Tarlov

You're totally right.

And I think that this is a bit of the perspective that your cohort, so former Republicans, squishy or not, that have basically, you know, made friends with folks that you grew up thinking are

not that nice things about because we're all on the same side of having free and fair elections and getting to exercise important constitutional rights and things like that that you see.

And you can be a little bit harsher about it because you've been on both sides of it.

So I'm very appreciative of that.

It's interesting that that's what you went to of all the Jesse-isms.

It's funny, like,

outside the bubble what breaks through people are like he took the tires out of his now wife's car which is not true it was a joke that he made but it's funny it like lives in social media lore I totally get it I mean part of it is also just like I've worked with them for so long and kind of have figured out

tools, I guess, to be able to ingest whatever's incoming and then make sure that I'm able to get out what I want to get out because you have a finite amount of time and you're going to be interrupted, you know, as you're going.

But thank you.

And it's not as bad as it might look to you.

I don't feel it that way.

I don't know if I'm, you know,

What's wrong with I don't go to therapy, so I don't know really what's wrong with me, but it's not as bad as it might look.

Thank you.

I'm very appreciative of it.

And it's one of the nice things when I do get to go between the two worlds.

And that's what has been so fulfilling about being able to have a podcast as well, that I get to have these kinds of conversations.

And then I'm going to go do the five at five.

And what happens there also directly informs me.