Jessica Tarlov

But she earned that right sitting in prison.

Otherwise, it's nothing.

Yeah, I mean, the line in the Wikipedia entry, I guess, is something, but probably not for the highest ranking people.

What you're describing, you know, makes me think of last weekend was the No Kings protest, round three, 8 million people out, 3,300 rallies across the country.

We saw, you know, the brave people of Minneapolis.

They got ice out, essentially.

They showed up enough in freezing cold temperatures to advocate for their rights and for the rights of people who are here illegally, too.

Do you feel like we are seeing a broad-based swell of people demanding change or something better, or do you still feel like it's too quiet?

It's so weird how this stuff that's the most obvious and out front feels the hardest to deal with.

The, you know, stab me in the front versus the back, like the front appears to be more difficult to prosecute than the kind of work that, you know, you're doing or you spent a year looking into something.

Right.

Not just rebuild.

reform.

Like, we have to burn it down too.

And I think that's something, you know, as a Democrat that I've really struggled with and to communicate with lawmakers who are like, we're going to go back to how it was.

Like, we'll be respected on the world stage.

And I'm like,

Like it wasn't that great before for people, especially for poor people in America who are telling you like they want an arsonist with a D on their shirt or an R on their shirt.

And they're going to pick whoever is going to make the most change.

Absolutely.