Jessica Tarlov

So I wanted to ask you, since you have a position actually that is not too dissimilar from

Scott Galloway's, which is we should be looking for opportunities for things to go right at this point because we are here now.

How could this war end in a good way?

Like, what is the best case scenario looking at the facts on the ground right now?

Wouldn't you say, though, that Iran is a central cog in Russia and China's strength?

I mean, so obviously there's the oil problem.

sourcing.

So China can't live without them in terms of that and the region generally.

And then you have the proxy forces that Iran commands set up all over the Middle East that will do the bidding of the Iranians and certainly of Vladimir Putin, who seems to be thrilled with the current situation.

I mean, I would like to talk axis of evil.

with you and talk about, you know, the lessons that we, and you especially, having been part of the Bush administration, you know, gleaned from that.

But it does feel like these are interconnected forces.

It was like a fill in the blank, like whoever you really don't like.

drove a stake right through the heart of that argument that I was making.

I'm curious as to what you think the role of J.D.

Vance is right now.

There was some reporting this morning that he had a kind of tough love call with Bibi Netanyahu talking about the aims of this and what we actually could accomplish and that toppling the regime is essentially off the table.

I've

found his appearances to be quite haphazard, and they're not as frequent as I would expect either, but he's doing everything from continuing to maintain that this is the peace president to saying this time it will be different because Donald Trump is smart and past presidents have been dumb.

How do you see the Vance of it all?