Jessica Tarlov

And this is an issue about a class and a bipartisan point, right?

A class of people who don't seem to be being held responsible for abominable crimes.

Do you think that we will see more Epstein files, that there will be any justice for these survivors at some point?

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's always what I'm thinking.

Why would you put it in ink?

Is the expectation if we win the House in November that there will be more to come on this?

Because it does feel like we've hit a moment where they're just going to stonewall the release of these files, at least until elections or until they don't have control anymore.

Absolutely.

And you just got to my next question, which was going to be about your mind as a political tactician and how we should be campaigning for the midterms.

Because Epstein class, John Ossoff's been talking about it, Ro Khanna.

And then there are folks in the party who think, you know, we've got to be focused on those kitchen table issues more, like affordability, immigration even, versus talking about the Epstein files.

So I think I got your answer on that.

Definitely need the proof when you move forward with it.

But it does leave room for a lot of speculation that I don't think the folks involved are enjoying either.

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