Jessica Tarlov

Sorry, this is like a 90-minute question, but you get what I'm saying.

Yeah, I like that also because it doesn't have any specific ideology.

Like there are people from across the spectrum that satisfy that thirst that people have to be seen and to be heard.

Because, you know, you mentioned AOC and Bernie Sanders and Mom Donnie.

But Mikey Sherrill and Abigail Spanberger were also talking that same way to people, right, and talking about costs and that they had a plan to fix it.

So I think that was a great 90-minute answer to my 90-minute question.

We're going to take a quick break.

Stay with us.

All right.

Welcome back.

There's a big political shakeup out of Minnesota.

Just announced yesterday that Governor Tim Walz says he's dropping his bid for a historic third term as a massive welfare fraud scandal continues to escalate.

Walz insists he's not accused of wrongdoing.

He doesn't just insist that he is not accused of wrongdoing.

But the fallout from federal indictments to a viral conservative video to an upcoming House oversight hearing has turned a state level investigation into a national flashpoint.

So what actually happened here?

What responsibility does leadership bear?

And how does this reshape Minnesota politics heading into the midterms?

Ben, were you surprised that Walls announced he wasn't going to run?

I couldn't even follow.