Jessie Stephens

Oh, he definitely is.

He's a celebrity too.

So that's why you can't just treat him like the help.

Like JLo made a big mistake there.

But the thing is, so she's copping flack.

He may or may not be complicit in this.

But one of the things that it has got people talking about is what we expect from celebrities on the red carpet.

And when we're shouting at them to smile, to show a bit of leg, to pose this way, like Miley Cyrus was recently in the same situation on the red carpet at a film festival and she was being yelled at by the wall of photographers, take your sunnies off, put them on.

And she bit back and was like, I'm going to do the opposite of what you tell me to do.

There's some great audio of Hannah Waddingham, who's that brilliant British actress from Ted Lasso, when she was told to show a bit of leg and she was like, you would never ask a man to do that.

Does this all remind us very much of just being told to smile and be nice all the time?

The risk profile is too high to ask a midlife woman to smile.

Absolutely.

She might be Perry.

You might lose a finger.

Anyway, what do you think?

Is this just an extension of how we expect women to perform in public?

That's not true.

Like sometimes people come into a podcast interview, for example, and they want to know the producer's name and, you know, the person turning the camera on and they say hello and they thank everybody.

And you always think that person's wonderful.