Jessie Stephens

You don't get to tell me.

But then on the other hand, we're like, oh,

she's a bit of herself, isn't she?

Like, you know, shouldn't you be grateful to be here?

Absolutely.

We don't want to see the result of that.

If you think that a lot of young women and girls, and we feel that scrutiny anyway, turned up to way beyond 11 if you're famous, and then when it seems to visibly affect somebody and they begin to crack under that, then we judge them for it.

It's a tricky one to get right.

But J-Lo, she's been living with this for a long time.

I think she may be wishing she'd just said hi, thanks to Cole at this moment.

She knows better.

Outlouders, thank you so much for having us in your ears this Monday.

Welcome back to Amelia Leicester.

We'll be back in your ears tomorrow.

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I don't know.

Plus, Timothee Chalamet has been winning a lot of awards lately, you would have seen.

He's been using a very specific word in his acceptance speeches and we are going to dissect it.

I didn't realise how serious endo was.