Jia Tolentino
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OK, so episode three, the title is The Meaning of Dreams, as always, written and directed by Mike White. I love the way this one started with the tsunami dream. Yeah, I thought it was gorgeous.
OK, so episode three, the title is The Meaning of Dreams, as always, written and directed by Mike White. I love the way this one started with the tsunami dream. Yeah, I thought it was gorgeous.
Well, she also I liked how you saw how she's not entirely straightforward with either her family herself. She was like. a really intense dream. And I was like, well, you walked into a tsunami. Like, is that all?
Well, she also I liked how you saw how she's not entirely straightforward with either her family herself. She was like. a really intense dream. And I was like, well, you walked into a tsunami. Like, is that all?
She was like, it was dark. Our house was there. And I was like, and? And what else happened? So the tsunami being, at this point, the FBI is fully at Timothy's office.
She was like, it was dark. Our house was there. And I was like, and? And what else happened? So the tsunami being, at this point, the FBI is fully at Timothy's office.
So after this, Timothy has an extreme reaction, which is to, after resisting Pam's entreaties to give me your phones, he's suddenly like, you know what? Phones in the bag. Phones in the bag.
So after this, Timothy has an extreme reaction, which is to, after resisting Pam's entreaties to give me your phones, he's suddenly like, you know what? Phones in the bag. Phones in the bag.
Yeah. Do you think that this is him standing there like – is this him standing there waiting to accept it and not fighting it? Or is it him running away from the tsunami?
Yeah. Do you think that this is him standing there like – is this him standing there waiting to accept it and not fighting it? Or is it him running away from the tsunami?
Yeah, but also trying to delay it because he doesn't even want to.
Yeah, but also trying to delay it because he doesn't even want to.
And he's dipping into those benzos. Yeah.
And he's dipping into those benzos. Yeah.
I mean, frankly, I would be too if I were him. If I was that man and the FBI was at my office, you better believe I would be taking Xanax and hiding my phone. I thought the moment was interesting when Saxon is – the phone moment of putting all the phones in the bag, it comes when someone from the office is calling Saxon. It's leaking. It's about to leak.
I mean, frankly, I would be too if I were him. If I was that man and the FBI was at my office, you better believe I would be taking Xanax and hiding my phone. I thought the moment was interesting when Saxon is – the phone moment of putting all the phones in the bag, it comes when someone from the office is calling Saxon. It's leaking. It's about to leak.
And he has this one-on-one father-son chat with Saxon.
And he has this one-on-one father-son chat with Saxon.
That is like full of pathos because you see how eager this – Overconfident, blustery son is to just— Just wants his father's advice and validation. And you kind of get a second of like, maybe you're actually not that good at your job either. You know what I mean? Like, oh, maybe you're a little—maybe you're slipping at work also, you know?
That is like full of pathos because you see how eager this – Overconfident, blustery son is to just— Just wants his father's advice and validation. And you kind of get a second of like, maybe you're actually not that good at your job either. You know what I mean? Like, oh, maybe you're a little—maybe you're slipping at work also, you know?