Ep. 3: “The Meaning of Dreams” with Walton Goggins and Aimee Lou Wood
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What is the introduction to the White Lotus Podcast?
Hello, and welcome to the White Lotus official podcast companion to season three. I'm Gia Tolentino.
And I'm Josh Barrowman.
What are Jia and Josh's wellness goals at the White Lotus?
And later on, we're going to be talking to our favorite couple, Rick and Chelsea, Walton Goggins and Amy Lee Wood. Today, my question for you is, if you were a guest at the White Lotus, what would your sort of holistic goal be for the week? What kind of treatments would we be having?
Yeah, that's an easy one. My wellness goal would be and is always to... Fight the monkey mind. Like the serenity aspect. Serenity is your goal. Meditation, the stillness. I have a hard time. My mind's always racing. So the monkey mind, although it seems like it would be hard at the White Lotus because the place is full of these malevolent macaques wearing their fangs off camera. But yeah, that would be my goal.
So you would put your phone in the pouch?
I'd put my phone in the pouch. Yeah. Yes, I would. I'd take a deep breath and throw it right in the pouch. How about you?
I mean, I need to quiet my mind. I would say that that is also a constant need in my own life. No, but I'm like, I'm coming here. I'm being like, my goals are external. I'm trying to do yoga twice a day. I'm trying to be on the beach and get a nice tan. Mostly I would just try to be reading and talking to no one and quieting my monkey mind in that sense. But I don't think I'd really be able to embrace the spiritual journey. I'd be just like, oh, my child's not here. I'm going to read.
Right, right. That's your own form of therapy is just having time to read a nice book. Yeah.
How does the tsunami dream set the tone for Episode 3?
OK, so episode three, the title is The Meaning of Dreams, as always, written and directed by Mike White. I love the way this one started with the tsunami dream. Yeah, I thought it was gorgeous.
I felt that, too, where it's an anxiety dream, but there's also something comforting about it. It's like, well, we're doomed, but we're together. Right. That was that was like the atmospherics of the dream. And then when she wakes up, she relates it to the whole family as if she's not disturbed. Right. It's up for the viewer. We know that this is a bad omen. You know, the tsunami, the coming tsunami, which is coming for them. But she doesn't realize it yet. So for her, it was actually maybe a dream of comfort.
Well, she also I liked how you saw how she's not entirely straightforward with either her family herself. She was like. a really intense dream. And I was like, well, you walked into a tsunami. Like, is that all?
You faced the wave.
She was like, it was dark. Our house was there. And I was like, and? And what else happened? So the tsunami being, at this point, the FBI is fully at Timothy's office.
Right, right. Yeah, he's in trouble. He's in trouble. And then Lachlan has planted this idea with his tsunami videos, which then we'd see him showing ones like, look at this guy just – He doesn't even move. He doesn't even try to run away.
So after this, Timothy has an extreme reaction, which is to, after resisting Pam's entreaties to give me your phones, he's suddenly like, you know what? Phones in the bag. Phones in the bag.
What are the implications of the family dynamics in Episode 3?
It's a rare thing that we're together like this. So let's make the most of it. Let's make this week special, right?
Yeah. Do you think that this is him standing there like – is this him standing there waiting to accept it and not fighting it? Or is it him running away from the tsunami?
I had that same thought, too. I thought, oh, well, maybe he's accepting his fate, basically. I was like, I can't do anything about it. I'm no longer in control. And a lot of the show in general is about what you can control and can't control. And depositing your electronics in the bag is the symbolic release of control. Right. Because we believe our control is now mediated through our devices and everything. And so, yeah, I kind of felt like he was watching the wave come for him.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What is the introduction to the White Lotus Podcast?
0:46–0:52
2
What are Jia and Josh's wellness goals at the White Lotus?
0:52–2:31
3
How does the tsunami dream set the tone for Episode 3?
2:31–4:10
4
What are the implications of the family dynamics in Episode 3?
4:10–9:36
5
How do politics and religion intersect in the podcast's discussion?
9:36–12:37
6
What is the significance of the snake show and Rick's actions?
12:37–43:38