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Jill Lepore

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
777 total appearances

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99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

It was completely non-controversial at the convention in 1787.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Everyone understood this thing had to be amendable.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

No one was going to ratify it if it couldn't be changed.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

So that's where it comes from.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

But the

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Provision itself is, it's kind of a pig's breakfast.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Like it's got all these compromises in it.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

And they just sort of guessed about what might be the right bar.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Like they have this Goldilocks problem, right?

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Like they're writing constitution.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

They want it to be amendable.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

But they don't want it to be impossible to amend it.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

It needs to be amendable, but they don't want it to be too easy to amend it because they want the thing to be sort of stable and, you know, get its legs before people start knocking it over.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

So they come up with this double supermajority provision, right?

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

The two thirds of both houses of Congress have to pass it.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Then it goes to the states and three quarters of the states have to ratify it.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

And I don't know, that doesn't seem crazy from the vantage of 1787, but it turns out very quickly, it's much harder to achieve that double supermajority than they anticipated.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Yeah, I mean, they have, they don't, they don't give this enough attention is one thing to say.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

Like, remember, like, they don't even get to this question.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #8: Jill Lepore

It's, it's,