Jillian Michaels

I'll express what I see and I'm here to also engage with somebody else's viewpoints.

But I just don't, you know, I'm not, unfortunately, I don't, I say unfortunately because I wish I could relate more to caring about comments.

But Marcia, you have to understand, like, I've been a public figure for 22 years, dude.

I just don't give a shit.

I have been through anything and everything under the sun.

It's kind of like...

I have been canceled so many times.

I've been called everything, like you just don't, and then you live another day and you realize like, oh well.

And it just sort of loses all of its power.

It's hard to explain, but you stop giving a shit about it.

It takes time though to get there and a lot of canceling to get there.

No, no, no, no, no, no, hold on.

Okay, first of all, yes, the aesthetic of health can be different on different people, unquestionably, right?

Somebody can be healthy in a size six or eight and somebody can be healthy in a size zero or two.

Having said that, the key would absolutely be

health, and that is quantifiable.

I know we've had a little bit of a fight over that.

I promise you it is quantifiable with biomarkers that are in fact measurable.

And that should be the focus with regard to somebody's physiology.

Now, I can't tell you about white European women.