Jillian Michaels

I'm saying they're the primary.

You want to indict someone?

Indict these people.

It is on the list for some people whose focus is body positivity, right?

We have different foci.

I, you know, I do civil rights stuff.

Some people do fashion stuff, wedding industry, health, you know, health and wellness, eating disorders.

We have, there are folks who are thinking about the food industry.

There are folks who are nutritionists who are, you know, like I can't, without seeing the list of like the people that I, I remember the Washington Post article.

Some of those people are not people that I would associate with us.

I understand, but they're literally...

Many of them are certified in intuitive eating.

Like Abby Sharp.

Okay, but that's not health at every size.

Intuitive eating is not a health at every size principle.

I know, but that's part of my problem with the movement is that it's like, oh, but it's not that part.

But it is that part.

It's all of it.

You're saying our problem is that all the things get conflated.

I'm not saying it's your problem.