Jillian Michaels

using body positivity to make their point.

I see them, this is a movement, I see people who are.

You see people who have multiple identities that include their skin color, their gender presentation, their disability, talking about body positivity related to their body size and those other issues.

We had somebody else earlier talk about that.

I just, I've never seen it in all the years.

Like, I've seen activists.

I mean, has anybody else here seen that?

What you started, what you started, right?

I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

The organization that you work for.

Yes.

Had to do with a gentleman that started this organization because his wife, label it however you would.

I don't know what word you guys feel comfortable with.

We've been using fat for 57 years.

Fat's okay to use?

Okay.

Yes.

But see, you are, but listen, Jillian, you've positioned yourself, you've positioned yourself as really, really knowing this movement and really knowing where we're showing up.

And it is really, really common for activists and advocates to talk about using fat as a neutral descriptor.

We just say fat, right?