Jillian Michaels

I just think that's contradictory.

I really do.

I don't see how.

I think that there are absolutely experts that have answers.

The answer, and it's more than platitudes in the mirror.

If it's not... Getting treatment with a person who's gone to school and specializes in this.

That would be great if you feel welcomed and comfortable in that person's space.

There are many experts in the world that would welcome, especially ones that specialize in this category of medicine.

But in this category of medicine, if there's not room for body positivity, then you're in turn... I didn't say that's not the claim is that there's not room.

I said it oversimplifies.

It oversimplifies.

Are you saying it oversimplifies people's trauma?

No, I'm telling you it oversimplifies the complexity and the depth of these types of disorders, whether it's anorexia, whether it's bulimia, whether it's binge eating disorder, whether somebody is eating, and Summer was not referring to you, somebody's eating because let's say they were molested.

Okay, but you bringing up somebody's eating because they were molested, I mean, that's not why necessarily people are eating.

That's what the claim is about.

It is about the fact that people who have disordered eating and trauma, I think the body positivity movement with things like intuitive eating specifically, oversimplifying can actually give bad advice.

But the fundamentals of the... Okay, pause.

I've been on a diet since I was like six.

Okay.

You've talked a lot about trauma, being molested, parents, this and that.