Jillian Michaels

But in this category of medicine, if there's not room for body positivity, then you're in turn... I didn't say that's not the claim is that there's not room.

I said it oversimplifies.

It oversimplifies.

Are you saying it oversimplifies people's trauma?

No, I'm telling you it oversimplifies the complexity and the depth of these types of disorders, whether it's anorexia, whether it's bulimia, whether it's binge eating disorder, whether somebody is eating, and Summer was not referring to you, somebody's eating because let's say they were molested.

Okay, but you bringing up somebody's eating because they were molested, I mean, that's not why necessarily people are eating.

That's what the claim is about.

It is about the fact that people who have disordered eating and trauma, I think the body positivity movement with things like intuitive eating specifically, oversimplifying can actually give bad advice.

But the fundamentals of the... Okay, pause.

I've been on a diet since I was like six.

Okay.

You've talked a lot about trauma, being molested, parents, this and that.

Yes.

I've heard of... Someone mentioned the BMI.

I've heard people use the word obese.

Okay.

So what is your thought on this oversimplification?

I think actually the medical industry and a lot of health professionals have oversimplified.

I'm sorry if that's happened to you.

I think you're seeing the wrong people.