Jim Browning

Hello, Jack. Hello, hello. Good, well, it's good evening for me. I guess you're in the States, so it's probably the afternoon.

Hello, Jack. Hello, hello. Good, well, it's good evening for me. I guess you're in the States, so it's probably the afternoon.

Oh, yes. There's very, well, there's very few people I think don't like chocolate. I know. Yeah. Yeah, chocolate's great. Yeah, yeah. Keeps you going, bit of energy.

Oh, yes. There's very, well, there's very few people I think don't like chocolate. I know. Yeah. Yeah, chocolate's great. Yeah, yeah. Keeps you going, bit of energy.

Yeah. It's hard to do without it. I do like a bit of chocolate. You're actually making me hungry. I probably got you at a bad time. I wasn't actually expecting you to say, yeah, I'm ready to go and we can just do this. But it absolutely suits me down to the ground.

Yeah. It's hard to do without it. I do like a bit of chocolate. You're actually making me hungry. I probably got you at a bad time. I wasn't actually expecting you to say, yeah, I'm ready to go and we can just do this. But it absolutely suits me down to the ground.

Okay.

Okay.

Yeah, that's cool. I've got to say, even before we do this, I have listened to loads of your podcasts. And honestly, it's an honor for me even to be asked on to it. So there you go.

Yeah, that's cool. I've got to say, even before we do this, I have listened to loads of your podcasts. And honestly, it's an honor for me even to be asked on to it. So there you go.

Well, I wish it was a bit more like Batman. You know, Batman has got this, you know, an injustice done and, you know, he's after the Joker and all this sort of thing. Very, very different for me. The way I got started was probably like most people, I receive lots of scam phone calls and you keep hearing those incessant phone calls, people pretending to be Microsoft.

Well, I wish it was a bit more like Batman. You know, Batman has got this, you know, an injustice done and, you know, he's after the Joker and all this sort of thing. Very, very different for me. The way I got started was probably like most people, I receive lots of scam phone calls and you keep hearing those incessant phone calls, people pretending to be Microsoft.

pretending to be Amazon, your bank and so on. And most people know just to hang up those calls. But I'm one of those people who I love to dig a little bit deeper. Because I'm an engineer, I know about computers, know about networks. And I thought to myself, surely someone is doing something about this. And if they're not, maybe I can do something.

pretending to be Amazon, your bank and so on. And most people know just to hang up those calls. But I'm one of those people who I love to dig a little bit deeper. Because I'm an engineer, I know about computers, know about networks. And I thought to myself, surely someone is doing something about this. And if they're not, maybe I can do something.

I really want to find out about what makes the scam tick.

I really want to find out about what makes the scam tick.

Right. Did you find any Trojans or anything?

Right. Did you find any Trojans or anything?

right just that i was watching everything you were doing and also recording what you're doing and recording your voice because you've removed nothing whatsoever from this machine it was never infected in the first place and all you've done i'm sorry it was never infected with anything in the first place and you know that so you you say that you've removed a trojan tell me what trojan you've removed and show me evidence of that then

right just that i was watching everything you were doing and also recording what you're doing and recording your voice because you've removed nothing whatsoever from this machine it was never infected in the first place and all you've done i'm sorry it was never infected with anything in the first place and you know that so you you say that you've removed a trojan tell me what trojan you've removed and show me evidence of that then