Jim Burns

It might not be at a normal time.

You keep a busy schedule, but they can always get to me.

And if there's roadblocks, I'm going to help them overcome those things.

So I think there are specific instances where you're looking for really targeted areas of expertise.

Yeah.

But for the most part, those are the those are the, you know, kind of the

more administrative roles that you've got to have within a growing or an organization of some size.

And then for most of what we're doing here, man, you know, I need great project managers.

And that's like the whole spectrum.

That's not, that's not, hey, they're really good at this or this is, I can take the, I can give them a project no matter what it is and they go and knock it out.

And that's, I'm extremely blessed to have some great people that work with me

that have worked with me in different organizations and everything.

And that's your success as a leader depends on how well you build up everybody else.

Why are people doing it?

I think it goes back to, do you know who you are?

Number one.

And what do you control?

I'm a strong believer, whether it's a stoic virtue, it's a lot of different things.

But as a leader, what can I control?

And I can control what I think.