Jim Burns

How do you measure it?

And I agree with that 100%, right?

So you got to have measurable.

They got to be measurable goals to grow or you don't, right?

When you hit those goals, you feel empowered and you feel like I did this and it energizes me, at least me, it energizes me more.

So how do we do that and keep energizing yourself to go to that next level?

I think there's two categories.

When I'm looking at hiring different people, I think there's two categories.

There's very specific categories.

Like an HR person, I don't need a scientist to do that.

You know, I need somebody that's got that emotional intelligence and then it's motivational and everything like that.

So you look for specific things.

Accounting is another role.

Mikey, you got to know the books.

You got to know the rules.

You got to do that so that you keep everybody else out of trouble in in my in the development business that we've grown here.

Yeah, I like I like people that have a.

breadth of knowledge i like you know more of the swiss army knife kind of uh folks that that i can put and in any situation um and they'll figure it out they always have me to come back to as a resource we were talking about this you know we're doing annual reviews and i i i think my job as a ceo here is is to make sure that everybody has the tools they need to be successful

They have the skill sets to be successful in the projects that they get assigned.

And then they know that they can always get to me.