Jim Fowler

And thank goodness we didn't get bought then because we got bought for a lot more money a year and a half later.

But the point I'm really making is that you just have to approach it that way.

Luckily for us, we, um, once we got the offer, then we went out and listened to other, you know, said, Hey, we've got this offer.

Is anyone, cause we were in neither situation where we, you know, actively out there trying to sell the company.

We were approached both times.

Um, and, uh, was it an email?

No, no, no.

We had had a long-term relationship.

In fact, my COO really had a great relationship with Salesforce, and he had a huge hand in doing that deal.

They were already a partner of ours and all of that.

So they were very familiar.

And again, like I said, back in 2008, they took a really close look at us, but that was before they decided to really start acquiring.

Got it.

Nope.

What time is it?

That's my favorite.

The most useful was Jim Collins' Good to Great.

That's an action Bible, but my favorite from an interest perspective was certainly The Innovator's Dilemma.

Well, this is easy for me.

Mark Benioff.