Jim Gates

Yeah, who is the guy who would say he would sleep on his books and then wake up and then...

He would wake up the sleeping prophet.

That was his name.

What was his actual name?

Edward Casey, yes.

Yes, yes, yes.

He would go to sleep on his school books and wake up and know all the content of the book.

Well, it sounds like science fiction.

But you know what's crazy?

is uh i had this woman in here who writes on national security and she did this whole book about the pentagon yes it was called the pentagon's brain and the people that are in the pentagon who work for an organization um going back through the cold war called darpa was what it was called now it's called arpa they would invite routine every year they would invite the world's top science fiction writers yeah

to have some sort of like an intellectual brainstorm on weapons of the future.

They can't think inside the box because all the other countries are probably- Also inside the box, exactly.

That's exactly the word, yes.

Where there's like, let's throw money at this insane idea and who cares if it doesn't pay us off or get some sort of a return, you know?

Yeah.

Going back to the consciousness stuff and AI, I don't know if I'm convinced, like I agree with you that it will become so advanced that it will be indistinguishable from consciousness, but I don't know if it will actually become consciousness.

Well, think about all the power it takes to power those AIs.

And how many watts does the human brain run on again?

It's like five watts.

Right, that the public might not be aware of.