Jim Gates

Against them?

Yeah.

Oh, interesting.

Yeah, well, it seems like they're very good at helping people cheat on their homework and creating pictures that look real and crazy videos that look real and deep fakes.

They could do a lot.

And that kind of stuff.

Right, right.

It doesn't seem like super intelligence by any stretch of the imagination.

Right.

Not unless Einstein's wrong.

Hmm.

Can you expand that for us?

What are the chances Einstein gets proved wrong?

Well, your book is titled Proving Einstein Right, your most recent book, right?

Um, so when it comes to the use of physics for things like governments, the Pentagon, these types of things that get enormous unlimited funding, what sort of interest do you suspect?

Maybe you don't know that like the Pentagon, for example, would have in

basic physics or breakthrough physics or funding physicists at universities?

Hmm.

Well, it's certainly unsettling given these Epstein files that have come out where you have a window now into this invisible world that most people did not know existed where you have power brokers running around the world pulling the strings of governments and funding and profiting from wars and

At the same time, you have this guy who's wildly interested in physics, in parapsychology, all of this wacky stuff.