Jim Jordan

I'm sorry?

You familiar with the name Tony Ornato?

Yes.

White House Deputy Chief of Operations, Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations, right?

Remember what he said about it?

As I sit here right now, I do not.

Yeah, he said it didn't happen.

How about Bobby Engle?

Are you familiar with that name?

Yes, I am.

Secret Service agent who was actually in the car that day, you know what he said?

He said it didn't happen.

And they both said the first time they ever heard this story was when Ms.

Hutchinson testified in the prime time hearing as their star witness of the January 6th committee.

By the way, did you ever confirm her testimony about this particular incident?

Did you ever confirm the president leaping across the seat, grabbing the steering wheel, this whole concoction she brought up in the January 6th hearing?

Did you ever confirm that?

Hutchinson was a number of the things that she gave evidence on were secondhand hearsay.

You remember making that statement to us last month in the deposition?

I did, and I was referring particularly to what we're talking about now.