Jim Jordan

Yeah, and you also said Ms.

Hutchinson, regarding this particular claim, was a second or even third-hand witness.

We ask you, if you were a defense attorney, how would you handle cross-examining her if she was on the witness stand?

And you said, if I were a defense attorney and Ms.

Hutchinson were a witness, the first thing I would do was seek to preclude her testimony because it was hearsay.

You remember saying all that?

Yes, that's correct, sir.

That's correct, right?

Were you going to put her on the witness stand if you ever got to trial?

Are you familiar with what Washington Post reporters Carol Lennig and Aaron Davis said in their book?

They did this book, 300-some pages book on Chronicle and the whole investigation of the Justice Department.

And here's what they said.

On page 310, they said Jack Smith had wondered whether some of Hutchinson's claims might be relied upon at trial.

Still at one point, Smith told the elections team he wasn't ready to give up on Hutchinson's account.

Ultimately, however, Trump administration officials uniformly, fiercely disputed her accounts under oath.

Prosecutors on your team told Smith they wouldn't want to use Hutchinson as a witness in court, and Smith agreed.

Are Carol Lennig and Aaron Davis, who wrote this, are they lying?

That is the point.

The fact that they used her in a primetime hearing and you won't rule out using her or didn't rule out using her, putting her on the witness stand when everybody knows she wasn't telling the truth, that says it all.

That's the degree the left and Democrats were willing to go to get President Trump.