Jim Jordan

And they both said the first time they ever heard this story was when Ms.

Hutchinson testified in the prime time hearing as their star witness of the January 6th committee.

By the way, did you ever confirm her testimony about this particular incident?

Did you ever confirm the president leaping across the seat, grabbing the steering wheel, this whole concoction she brought up in the January 6th hearing?

Did you ever confirm that?

Hutchinson was a number of the things that she gave evidence on were secondhand hearsay.

You remember making that statement to us last month in the deposition?

I did, and I was referring particularly to what we're talking about now.

Yeah, and you also said Ms.

Hutchinson, regarding this particular claim, was a second or even third-hand witness.

We ask you, if you were a defense attorney, how would you handle cross-examining her if she was on the witness stand?

And you said, if I were a defense attorney and Ms.

Hutchinson were a witness, the first thing I would do was seek to preclude her testimony because it was hearsay.

You remember saying all that?

Yes, that's correct, sir.

That's correct, right?

Were you going to put her on the witness stand if you ever got to trial?

Are you familiar with what Washington Post reporters Carol Lennig and Aaron Davis said in their book?

They did this book, 300-some pages book on Chronicle and the whole investigation of the Justice Department.

And here's what they said.