Jim O'Callaghan

And that's information that I'm trying, entitled to use for the purpose of developing policy.

Yeah, but you have to take into account the people who have their applications rejected.

They're not fleeing conflict.

They're not fleeing war.

They're here, and it's probably something we would do as well.

They're here because there are economic opportunities for them in Ireland.

I would much prefer, and I think would make the whole system operate more effectively, if people who wanted to come to Ireland for economic reasons used the economic avenues that are available to come here, as opposed to misusing the asylum system.

That's not fully accurate, but certainly the response of Ireland to the war in Ukraine was extremely generous.

And what the Taoiseach said was absolutely correct.

Approximately 113,000 people from Ukraine came to Ireland, applied for and were granted temporary protection.

There's around 84,000 left at present.

Ireland was more generous than any other European country when it came to accommodation.

The obligation under the Temporary Protection Directive was that you have to provide access to accommodation.

We went further and we provided accommodation to people.

And I suppose what we're doing now is, and a lot of the Ukrainians...

you know, have moved out of state accommodation and they've got their own accommodation and the accommodation recognition payment has helped with that.

But at present, there's around 16,500 people who are still in state accommodation, which is provided free.

Many of them are working.

You know, myself and Colin Brophy have worked through this and we think it is more appropriate that we move away from state provided accommodation and people who are working should make a contribution.

But that decision is...