Jim VandeHei

But like, I find them to be more accessible by far than any administration that we've ever covered.

Uh, and, and, and like, uh,

They might say they don't like us or they don't like the media.

They engage with it.

And so it had the Washington Post just stuck to its identity of we are going to be the dominant publication about the interworkings of power and of governance and of politics.

That's a beautiful place to be.

And there's always money to be had around there because there's always audience to be around there.

This is a company town.

That company is politics.

That company is government.

And the fact that they surrendered that—

and allowed us at Politico to eat their lunch?

Like, that's a tragedy.

They shouldn't allow that.

It's the great paradox of the moment, which is there is more awesome, high-quality, deeply thought-out, like, nirvana-level information available today to the 6 billion-plus that have internet connectivity around the world than at any point in the history of humanity.

Sitting next to that is there's more crap...

more manipulative content, more garbage, more seductive in a bad way type content than ever before.

So like you're right, like the more is probably the biggest change.

There's just tons of it.

You could quantify it, right?