Jimmy Ellingham

I might ask you about that now, I was going to get to that later, but you went recently to the Australia-India test in March at the Waka, which was beamed back to New Zealand on TV, and I watched some.

Big crowds there, good media coverage of it.

Do you think New Zealand could have something like that?

New Zealand said no, according to news reports, to playing a test match in Australia next year.

You said you'd pretty well given up the thought or the chance of New Zealand playing a test.

What do you think now, then?

New Zealand cricket told me in a statement that never say never, I think, is the words they used for the future, but for now they're concentrating on the pinnacle tournaments, the World Cups, the 2020, we're champions at the moment, the 50 over.

Can you see the logic to that, though?

Because they say that the vehicle to get more women into the game are those big tournaments.

You've been involved in age group cricket, or are involved in age group cricket.

Do the young girls playing, do they want to play test cricket?

I asked New Zealand Cricket for an interview for this podcast, but it says the lead-up to the next 2020 World Cup, which starts in England next month, isn't the right time.

A statement from its head of women's high-performance development, Liz Green, which you heard me ask Penny Kinsella about there.

says there aren't any plans to reintroduce tests for the White Ferns at this stage.

She says NZ cricket is better to concentrate resources on the shorter 50-over and 20-over games to grow women's cricket in New Zealand, a strategy that's proving effective.

Liz Green says its preference for now is to focus on World Cups, but never say never when it comes to tests.

To a familiar voice now, former New Zealand all-rounder Frankie Mackay has played top domestic cricket for 20 years and watches more games than most as a radio and TV commentator.

I asked her, should the White Ferns be playing test cricket?

That's so interesting, isn't it?

Everything you said after the but, it's the opportunity cost.