Jimmy Wales

Whatever.

Most things don't work.

That's true.

At least you tried it.

You know, like that's better than, you know, you kept your job you hated in the bank and you wrote business plans for five years.

We gave it a shot.

Hopefully the podcast is entertaining.

We'll see how it goes.

We'll see how it goes.

Yeah, thanks for having me.

It's like a spaceship in here.

It's amazing.

Some call it the fishbowl.

It was a couple years ago.

I had had some ideas around this and yeah, just started and it's obviously turned out to be quite timely as we have a lot of issues around trust in society and I want to encourage people to let's get back to a society of trust.

Yeah, I mean, I think for me, you know, one of the seven rules of trust that is most meaningful in that regard is purpose.

Like Wikipedia has a very simple purpose, which is to build an encyclopedia.

And we make all our decisions around that and the rules about participation and so forth.

And that's very different from social media where there isn't a clear purpose other than free speech and openness.

And therefore, that toxicity really creeps in quite a lot in social media.