Jimmy Wales

And that was kind of the important thing is just getting started and learning as we went.

Yeah, I mean, it's hard to say.

I always say I'm a pathological optimist, so I never think of things as walls.

I'm just like, oh, we've got to do something here and we've got to do that.

But some of the kinds of challenges, my mind is immediately drawn to a little bit of a later period because once we got started, the traffic to the site was doubling every three to four months.

the nature of the mathematics of doubling is the first two or three, it's like, oh, wow, this is interesting.

And then it gets hairy because going from one server to two, fine, two to four, oh, now it's eight, 16, 32, like, oh my goodness.

And so there was a real challenge to scramble.

I mean, in the early days, I would buy new servers because the site was starting to feel a little slow and then we would get new servers and we would have a traffic growth

Because the site was more responsive, you know, and that was that was our big constraint was getting the technology in order for the growth.

And that actually led to, you know, when I realized, like, you know, I'm funding this out of my little tiny company.

And like, this isn't like we got to find a way.

And so put it into the nonprofit and did our first fundraiser.

And we needed to buy.

some servers.

We wanted to buy eight servers and we were hoping to raise $20,000 in one month's time.

And we ended up with 30,000 in about two weeks time.

So it was a big success.

And so we were able to buy the servers and have a little money left over to buy some other stuff.

But that was a big moment of relief because before then I was like, I don't know how we're going to keep funding this.