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Joachim Bitterlich

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
48 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

It was our traditional week of budget debate in German Parliament and Kohl prepared himself over the weekend the famous ten points.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

We had been in a small team.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

We were noting for the Chancellor point by point what were the most important steps towards it and we had even in this small team a certain debate about reunification.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

Parts of the team were skeptical about.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

The famous day in Strasbourg, which has been, for Cole, one of the most difficult European councils he has ever been heading, where Margaret Thatcher was, let's say, the opposition to German unification, supported by the Dutch Prime Minister, Wood Lovers, and supported by the Italian Prime Minister of that time, Giulio Anderotti.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

But the rest of the Europeans were saying, OK, go on.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

We needed George Bush, senior, to overcome Margaret Thatcher's resistance.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

And it was George Bush phoning to Margaret Thatcher on the eve of the 12th of September to ask her, please give up now.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

We agree.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

And then Britain has given up.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

Only then.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

And this was the moment where...

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

Well, the British have been, let's call it, invited by the Americans to give up.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

Well, I call this the special relationship between Britain and the US, and at the same time I call this realism.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

Because if the most important ally is contradicting you in a decisive question, this means you could lose this ally, and therefore, well, it is given up.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

I don't see any other politician of that period who would have had this courage and this long-term view of history.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

No one expected it, no one.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

Eastern Germany, well, it's not there where we'd like to see it.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

On the other hand, if you go there, Dresden has been rebuilt, the centre, and they say it's marvellous.

The History Hour
A papal visit and German reunification

The same applies to Leipzig, to other eastern German cities.