Joanne McNally

I think you look better, actually.

Joe said he'd actually get up on you now and for years he said he wouldn't.

Well, women are poisoned by our own culture.

So I've thought about this loads, about general various things.

And there's a general consensus within the female community of like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

If I've had to step in line and abide by these cultural rules for femininity, it really bothers me if someone else isn't doing it.

Also, there's a lot of women have a lot of hang ups about bodies and stuff because we've always been that like that's been our kind of our big social offering has always been your body, you know?

Yeah.

Like it's always been.

So it's it's such it's very messy territory, very messy territory.

And I don't think it brings out the best in us as a community.

I had a friend of mine who was, I mean, for want of a better term, trolling.

women who had had babies but had kind of snapped back in inverted commas and my friend hadn't snapped back whatever the fuck that means like who you know so few women do and whatever and she was really upset very triggered and very angry at the women who were posting photos and she was kind of going in on them with like

she was being like kind of mean to them and I spoke to her about it and I was like what's going on she was like it just really bothers me because I haven't done it and I think it puts like an awful pressure on women and I was like I totally understand where you're coming from in the same breath don't be part of the problem like

don't be part of the problem by commenting on it like just block or ignore if you can find it within yourself but she was and like I say she is one of the kindest soundest people I know but she could not contain herself because she feels that she's being judged there's pressure coming towards her and there's just so much pressure and so much judgment around women's bodies whereas look at Joe sitting there not a fucking bother on him no

Men don't have the same, they do not, it's just not the same.

It's not the same.

And the really sad thing is that women, we are so brainwashed that we're doing it to each other.

That's such, that's the sad part of it.

So with you, who you are like a very, you're very fitness focused, right?