Jocko Willink

That's like one trip.

Damn.

So, I check in to be the admiral and

You know, it was definitely an eye opener of what's happening in the community and what's going on and what's happening at that level.

And it was, yeah, a massive learning experience.

And again, you know, I had the E5 mafia language down

Now I learned the officer language, and now it was learning, I don't know what to call the next level up of officer language, but it's like- Flag officer language.

Flag officer language.

Because for that year, I was in the Pentagon.

I was, you know, and you'd be, it's weird when you're an aide.

It's kind of like you don't exist, but you do.

And I don't mean that in a bad way.

My boss was a great guy.

He was, you know, just a great guy, nice guy, cared about me a lot.

But like when you're in a room with a four-star general, like the aides are kind of these sub-humans in the back, but you're listening to everything, you're seeing everything.

And so it was a very educational experience as to what's happening at those levels.

You know, you're going to meetings at the Pentagon, JSOC, like just really educational.

Yeah.

And, you know, for us in the SEAL teams,

We don't realize often how much visibility we have, especially back then.