Jocko Willink

Look, I guess now it's pretty obvious we have a lot of visibility.

But back then, you know, you wouldn't think that an E-5 in a SEAL platoon doing something dumb on Liberty would get a phone call to the Admiral from...

the vice CNO or the CNO or the sec nav, like these things are a big deal.

And so that's what I learned.

I learned the amount of scrutiny that we're under.

The SEAL Team Five guys, they had someone in that platoon

uploaded digital pictures of their deployment to a website that was supposed to be secure that got breached.

And so these pictures went out over the internet.

And the pictures, so I'm there when the CNO is calling the Admiral to ask him about each of these individual pictures, what is going on in these pictures.

And implied in that was like, what is wrong

with your troops.

Example, there's an image of a guy, an Iraqi guy, he's being held by the jaw and he's got a pistol to his head with a flashlight in his eyes.

And so he knows like, what is going on in this picture?

And the Admiral like hits the mute button.

And I'm like, sir, they don't like to have their picture taken.

So you got to face the picture to the camera.

You got to face their face into the camera.

And the light is so that you can illuminate the camera.

You can illuminate the picture.

That's why the closest flashlight he got is his pistol.