Jocko Willink

Yep.

And then I go, hey, Sean, if we do another one of these explosive breaches, we're probably not going to get approved for our next missions.

And you go, what do you mean?

I said, well, they've had a bunch of collateral damage.

They've had a bunch of people in the Baghdad General Hospital that are wounded civilians from breaching charges.

And we're just going to get told no.

So now what are you going to do?

I trust you, but do you trust me?

And okay, well, that makes sense, Jocko.

Okay, can we mitigate it?

How can we mitigate it?

Well, we could do a call out.

We could throw flash crashes through the windows.

Like there's a bunch of ways.

We could figure out ways to mitigate things.

But if I don't talk to you and you don't talk to me and I don't explain to you what's happening, how can we expect to be aligned?

It's just not going to happen.

And so that open-mindedness and having good relationships with people is what it's all about.

And by the way, this extends to like the other units that you work with, right?

The other military, army, and Marine Corps units that you work with.