Jocko Willink

You've got to listen to what they're saying about their AO because that's going to have an impact as well.

How would you do it?

Set the vehicles in either usually an L-type scenario, you know, so we'd be able to see the black side of the building, but we wouldn't set ourselves up in an envelopment.

And then we'd get on the radio and say, hey, you're surrounded.

You know, and our terp would do it.

Hey, you're surrounded.

Come out.

Uh...

I don't know if we ever even reached an ultimatum.

I think we had a couple where there was no one home and we eventually breached, which again, which is a good escalation, right?

I guess, depending on how you look at it.

But if they wouldn't come out and now when we explosively breach this thing, we'd explosively breach it like big.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And, and again, even that first deployment to Iraq, these kinds of conversations, you know, these kinds of things, understanding what my boss was having to deal with.

Nope, it's a correct assumption.

I mean, how- By the way, my commanding officer, remember I said I was the only platoon in Iraq for like a month or two?

When my skipper showed up, he was no combat experience.

And you remember what I was saying earlier about like, I understand.

You know, like I don't expect my boss who's never been okay.